tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post4138640805613899331..comments2023-09-19T11:39:00.250+01:00Comments on Mostly Polynomial: Amarok 2 sucks.Dmytryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03329960438673340983noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-48883380530917960522012-10-02T11:16:05.489+01:002012-10-02T11:16:05.489+01:00Developers, you blew it completely with 2.X.
It...Developers, you blew it completely with 2.X.<br />It's time to switch to something else, probably Clementine player...<br /><br />Thanks for the great time I had with 1.4 and good bye!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-20304223973362885152012-09-27T21:11:34.485+01:002012-09-27T21:11:34.485+01:00Holy #$%$% I just tried KDE on the weekend and sta...Holy #$%$% I just tried KDE on the weekend and started up Amarok.<br /><br />WTF is this thing? I couldnt figure out how to make or see a playlist.<br /><br />I COULDNT EVEN FIND THE PLAY BUTTON!!!<br /><br />Amarok is hands down the worst interface I've ever seen.<br />I had a song by Ott playing and it gave me a huge text field in the center... for the wrong band!<br /><br />Also, it has no progress indicator. I imported one of my directories and it sat there for half an hour (40k files) looking like it had hung the computer. Just wanted to vent. There are some good features in this player but the default setting is unreal it is so bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-42842495620526439182012-05-20T20:38:33.595+01:002012-05-20T20:38:33.595+01:00I see that this is now a rather old thread but, as...I see that this is now a rather old thread but, as Dmytry pointed out there was a working interface that everyone liked. The developers feel a need to change it because they want to program. The users wants what is successful. Had this been a business, and many businesses make the same mistake, they would have gone under because of this interesting idea of having to change it even if it's not better.<br /><br />There is a manic need to continuously change things. You see things peek and then turn downhill. I've noticed it in most industries; Must change something!...<br /><br />Take the fiasco with KMail. It was my all time favorite mail client, and I've been computing since long before there was an internet, and used them across many platforms. With KMail the developers wanted to continue coding and came up with these ideas that at least on paper looked like a good improvement. Unfortunately there was no project manager who was exterior to their desires and simply looked at user pro's and con's. <br /><br />The result, implementing a beta database solution for all the email. Which caused severe data and access damage to a huge amount of people. <br /><br />When these type of changes are done they need to be user optional during install (and after). <br /><br />With KMail it was even worse because mail is so vital. Messing with peoples email like they did was an astonishing example of low responsibility. No warning, just wham!<br /><br />After a week of no reliable email I switched to Thunderbird. Which is not a great replacement if you really liked KMail. But it works. More adult people maybe, who know not to aim at both feet and fire, just because of an urge to code and change things.<br /><br />The way you do it is to offer a new development version for those who want to try it out. Then default to true and tested.<br /><br />What's so ironic here is that while Amarok cannot tell who is playing, the volume control tells me who and what the song is.<br /><br />There is one and only one saving grace for Amarok at this moment. The fact that I can change the volume with the wheel on my mouse. For some odd reason that has not caught on with other players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-50115794159643580052012-01-30T16:18:26.184+00:002012-01-30T16:18:26.184+00:00mmm... Clementine
I can finally listen to music al...mmm... Clementine<br />I can finally listen to music all day again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-68833376044726671372011-11-28T18:46:18.189+00:002011-11-28T18:46:18.189+00:00The worst thing about amarok2 is its interface. An...The worst thing about amarok2 is its interface. An interface should make it easier to use the app, not harder (discounting learning the interface). Also, I really miss the context that lists similar songs...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-79453987229451524552011-11-13T15:39:57.376+00:002011-11-13T15:39:57.376+00:00Amarok2 sucks because mysql is a toy database. I c...Amarok2 sucks because mysql is a toy database. I can't imagine why the hek postgres is not more supported.Germanachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06166196430759103575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-40155838414003660482011-01-02T22:17:21.324+00:002011-01-02T22:17:21.324+00:00I had Amarok working fine until the latest K3b upd...I had Amarok working fine until the latest K3b updates group, at which point anytime I invoked Amarok, it crashed. Not impressed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-30155650847244332112010-07-27T22:25:02.332+01:002010-07-27T22:25:02.332+01:00I am using (well trying) to use Amarok 2 on Ubuntu...I am using (well trying) to use Amarok 2 on Ubuntu. I like Linux, but I am not the real kinda geek spending hours of installing stuff and being obsessed by config files.<br /><br />Well, getting software up and running is really straightforward these days on Ubuntu, except for Amarok 2. Well, a fried told me about it, that it is sooo great. It is not!<br /><br />First of all, there is this issue about phonon backends. Why should the user care about that? Is it that complicated to deal with that?<br /><br />Then there is the problem of zombie processes, which are started immediately after you have started Amarok 2. Great.<br /><br />And finally there is a bunch of extra tiny error messages in the lower right corner, which disappear by themselves. Awesome experience, the whole thing does not work, and it will not tell you clear error messages.<br /><br />Amarok 2 really reminds me of the really bad old days, when some Linux people would not talk to you, once you told them you are still using the shit of Microsoft.<br /><br />Amarok 2 developers, you seem to have developed a great piece of software, except for the fact it does not work very reliably.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-37166223386530607502010-07-08T23:07:06.257+01:002010-07-08T23:07:06.257+01:00After using Amarok 2 for a year and waiting and wa...After using Amarok 2 for a year and waiting and waiting I am looking for a different player. Amarok 1 was simply amazing. Amarok 2 is the worst piece of trash I have ever forced myself to use. Complete G A R B A G E.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-65709740454520859852010-06-08T18:25:33.511+01:002010-06-08T18:25:33.511+01:00The problem is the changes to the UI were made wit...The problem is the changes to the UI were made with no thought at all. It is change for changes sake.<br /><br />Amarok 2 sucks ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-87414599346102319442010-04-30T22:32:44.189+01:002010-04-30T22:32:44.189+01:00I used 2.* for a while until this update of Ubuntu...I used 2.* for a while until this update of Ubuntu, and now a large number of bugs have appeared for no obvious reason. Time to switch back to 1.4...DIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13019465352227206504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-42984712668670988872010-04-17T11:08:13.528+01:002010-04-17T11:08:13.528+01:00I was a long time KDE user. What really put me off...I was a long time KDE user. What really put me off was the force-fed KDE4x bullshit they pulled on us. <br /><br />And Amarok... no equalizer? seriously WTF? Well hope you all are satisfied with the 7 people who are left with the POS you are so proud of. Fail!<br /><br />Thanks for all the fish!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-8889100660714505272010-03-07T12:03:37.898+00:002010-03-07T12:03:37.898+00:00The only reason Amarok radically changed is becaus...The only reason Amarok radically changed is because it is so tightly tied to kde that whan kde radically changes it forces all apps tied to kde to radically change.<br />Amarok does suck now and it's sad to see people who can't write their own libraries for fetching and playing music and have to rely on libkde to make an application.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-41038494230566114182010-02-17T23:15:14.443+00:002010-02-17T23:15:14.443+00:00I too highly dislike the "new" Amarok. S...I too highly dislike the "new" Amarok. Simply put the older version was more feature rich, and simply easier to use.<br /><br />Blah on A-2.x!!!!<br /><br />So will it be back to at least its formal self in 3.x?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-23405206212811855322010-01-17T14:33:10.500+00:002010-01-17T14:33:10.500+00:00"I, for one, cannot recall a single case wher..."I, for one, cannot recall a single case where Amarok 1.4.x just stopped playing sound on me for no reason..."<br /><br />I actually do get this problem with Amarok 1.4. It happens to me several times a day. It must have something to do with the Xine engine PulseAudio, so it's not directly an Amarok problem. In any case, the reason that it happens to me several times a day with Amarok 1.4 is that I use Amarok 1.4 all day because Amarok 2 is simply not up to the job. It's not as bad as it was a few months ago, and not being able to import podcasts from 1.4 is not too serious, but being unable to index files with spaces in their names is not exactly a great usability plus.<br /><br />What would help would be if the Amarok developers were to be more candid about the problems. I have had to uninstall Amarok 2 completely in order to install 1.4, so I'm not going to reinstall it until I feel confident the problem has been solved. Honest information and projections from the developers would be helpful in this regard.Santa Cophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11492173736154707791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-11812109592081297892009-12-17T14:12:25.432+00:002009-12-17T14:12:25.432+00:00I agree - I've stuck with Amarok 1.4 after var...I agree - I've stuck with Amarok 1.4 after various bad experiences trying out the 2.0 version.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-43350240345876464022009-11-20T02:00:57.836+00:002009-11-20T02:00:57.836+00:00Aside from all the truth everybody else has alread...Aside from all the truth everybody else has already brought out in this thread (especially the pizza analogy), I, for one, cannot recall a single case where Amarok 1.4.x just stopped playing sound on me for no reason...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-31636540901539953542009-11-12T10:24:43.262+00:002009-11-12T10:24:43.262+00:00on my mandriva 2010.0 amarok 2 looks broken (the m...on my mandriva 2010.0 amarok 2 looks broken (the middle panel has text overlapping buttons), album art is never downloaded, artist info is never displayed, lyrics are never displayed.<br /><br />so basically I ignore the middle panel alltogether.<br /><br />however I don't seem to be able to do the same queuing and searching I'm used to on the playlist panel.<br /><br />and finally it crashes, it hangs and it consumes crazy amount of CPU power.<br /><br />since mandriva switched stopped providing amarok 1 I ended up not listening to music less and less (and wasting more time looking for alternatives).<br /><br />until last week I did the configure old repos trick and I'm back to using amarok 1.4<br /><br />I can't imagine how anyone would defend amarok 2 (kde 4 is full of annoying regressions but at least u can understand what the developers are trying to achieve, with amarok 2 it feels like madness).Alaahttp://www.manalaa.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-78670144289138653762009-10-14T07:09:44.210+01:002009-10-14T07:09:44.210+01:002 cents from an irritable Debian 'sid' use...2 cents from an irritable Debian 'sid' user: <br />Analogy: Amarok 1.4 was like a Pizza with everything; Amarok 2.x is like a slab of white bread toped with ketchup and sour cream then baked. <br /><br />So far what I hate most is shuffling a playlist -- can't be done, or at least it's not obvious after futzing around for many frustrating minutes. (Even getting a sorted playlist to play in shuffle mode is unintuitive and ugly.) Fail, fail, fail...<br /><br />Nothing against innovative coders starting fresh, but they should never give a radical experiment a standard name. And Debian sucks for making worthless 2.x replace functional 1.4. <br /><br />Plenty of apologetic blather circulating about the underlying code improvement, how unmaintainable and ugly it was; maybe so, but one sin shouldn't justify another.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-85687321083815723292009-09-29T04:39:00.858+01:002009-09-29T04:39:00.858+01:00I am forced to agree with this. Amarok 1.4.x had a...I am forced to agree with this. Amarok 1.4.x had a great UI and lots of features. The 2.x branch so far has been a major regression with lots of UI tweeks that don't make a lot of sense. Why the enormous buttons? Why the loss of the mc style layout that made the older versions very simple and efficient to use? That context panel is worthless, even with the ability to hide it now, you still have all the unneeded menu animation and such things that only serve to slow things down and reduce usability. I had used amarok for several years, but now that the 2.x branch is what's out there, I suppose I'll be forced to look at exaile as an alternative, even though I'm sure it doesn't have many features that Amarok 1.4.x has, but unfortunately 1.4.x is a dead end.<br /><br />The UI is really what kills it for me, I could accept the argument that features will trickle back into the application, but the UI is just clunky and non-intuitive. It's nearly as bad as iTunes now.Airencrackenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15245719045477886806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-47497423001117210482009-09-07T18:23:04.927+01:002009-09-07T18:23:04.927+01:00Amarok 2 sucks so bad that I'm leaving Linux a...Amarok 2 sucks so bad that I'm leaving Linux alltogether... It was the one app that had me willing to beat my head against the constant Linux driver headaches, etc but now that it sucks, Windows 7 looks appealing now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-27847606095945976922009-08-17T08:16:12.236+01:002009-08-17T08:16:12.236+01:00Moving to Amarok 2 was such a big mistake!! My alb...Moving to Amarok 2 was such a big mistake!! My album art is messed up, my ipod is no longer recognized, it has trouble importing all my songs (skips songs in certain albums) worse user interface (bring back the double-click to queue, or at least give an option to change things, it's ridiculous how little settings are available...)<br /><br />Seriously, this is 0.2 not 2.1 !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-58089687362730251912009-07-16T13:17:15.640+01:002009-07-16T13:17:15.640+01:00My point is, things like bugs and problems with me...My point is, things like bugs and problems with media devices* are a totally understandable and excusable result of rewrite. Unlike just abandoning good user interface that's associated with Amarok name.<br /><br />*no, I didn't check 2.1.1 with ipod. I know 2.02 did not work [from a friend], and I have crappy creative zen thing which has severe problems with libmtp. I know it isn't amarok that deserves praise or blame for device integration.Dmytryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03329960438673340983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-61214113779863633762009-07-16T12:53:19.668+01:002009-07-16T12:53:19.668+01:00Just a quick addition:
There is ipod support in A...Just a quick addition:<br /><br />There is ipod support in Amarok 2. Just plug in your ipod and mount it. Wait a few seconds and it should show up a new collection.DanielWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8848112173199275026.post-81502037446811298632009-07-16T10:15:24.817+01:002009-07-16T10:15:24.817+01:00"There is a checkbox in the settings menu for..."There is a checkbox in the settings menu for disabling the view completely."<br />Must have missed it. Don't want to install 2.1.1 again.<br /><br />"Imo, this is really a case of the sucess of Amarok 1 being our worst enemy when trying to do something new."<br />It was Amarok's team decision to use name of a media player for, I dunno, brand new "context viewer".<br /><br />2.2 might be usable as media player, judging by the video, when it comes out I'll try it. For now, I'm fixing a bug in Exaile. Right now.Dmytryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03329960438673340983noreply@blogger.com